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tribecalledquest wrote:
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Let them get it out of their system. These are the same people that tore down statues of abolitionists and liberators the last couple of weeks.

Bubba Wallace is a cool dude.
Same people?
In the moral equivalency sense, yes.
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Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
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Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
If one of your first thoughts isn’t about how racist this is but is actually one where you think it’s a setup says a lot.
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tribecalledquest wrote:
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Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
If one of your first thoughts isn’t about how racist this is but is actually one where you think it’s a setup says a lot.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of racists in the world, thus listing them first. Unfortunately, there are also several high profile instances of people faking these types of things too from Smollett to various incidents on college campuses. To be clear, if this is a faking case it is highly unlikely Wallace is involved.

Access to pits are limited particularly right now. I would assume there are plenty of cameras too. Hopefully, they find whoever the scumbag was regardless and they are criminally charged.
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Redbird CC Fan wrote:
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tribecalledquest wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:51 am
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Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
If one of your first thoughts isn’t about how racist this is but is actually one where you think it’s a setup says a lot.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of racists in the world, thus listing them first. Unfortunately, there are also several high profile instances of people faking these types of things too from Smollett to various incidents on college campuses. To be clear, if this is a faking case it is highly unlikely Wallace is involved.

Access to pits are limited particularly right now. I would assume there are plenty of cameras too. Hopefully, they find whoever the scumbag was regardless and they are criminally charged.
Yep. And ban them from NASCAR, for life. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone that can't be touched, such as a spouse or kid.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.co ... 1592842066

This should be easy to pinpoint and determine who did this. Heinous act. It’s the same as those spray painting “kill whitey” on statues. Both are despicable.



Much different than driving (on public street and not on nascar grounds) displaying the confederate flag. That’s an allowable protest. In fact it’s more acceptable than protests that illegally block streets or infringe on the freedom of movement of others.

Flying a plane with a banner? Too much effort and possibly money. It’s sad but meh.
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It’s sad but meh.
If that doesn't sum up 2020 in a nutshell, I don't know what does.

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Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
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It’s sad but meh.
If that doesn't sum up 2020 in a nutshell, I don't know what does.
I can top that for 2020... Down with Jesus...

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Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
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It’s sad but meh.
If that doesn't sum up 2020 in a nutshell, I don't know what does.
Defund NASCAR = meh

Hanging a noose in a locker. That’s a despicable act and sad. There’s no comparison in the two.
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Redbird CC Fan wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:26 pm
Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:21 pm
illini25 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:06 pm
It’s sad but meh.
If that doesn't sum up 2020 in a nutshell, I don't know what does.
I can top that for 2020... Down with Jesus...

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/22/sh ... ned-glass/
I wouldn't take anything Shaun King says too seriously. Though it does the beg the question if Jesus, were he alive today, would have wanted images of him like this displayed. One would have to think he probably wouldn't.

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Bubba Wallace is a fraud.

Tribe owes Redbird a huge mea culpa.

One of these days, progressives will seek truth, not just ride the woke train off a cliff.

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tribecalledquest wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:51 am
Redbird CC Fan wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:04 am
Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
If one of your first thoughts isn’t about how racist this is but is actually one where you think it’s a setup says a lot.
Come again?

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tombs14 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:08 pm
tribecalledquest wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:51 am
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:04 am
Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
If one of your first thoughts isn’t about how racist this is but is actually one where you think it’s a setup says a lot.
Come again?
It wasn’t a setup. But I knew you would be all over something like this. Congrats.
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tribecalledquest wrote:
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tombs14 wrote:
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If one of your first thoughts isn’t about how racist this is but is actually one where you think it’s a setup says a lot.
Come again?
It wasn’t a setup. But I knew you would be all over something like this. Congrats.
But clearly waiting for an investigation wasnt a priority, and you supported jumping to conclusions.

PS. It was a setup from his own camp. It was a garage door pull string. For effs sake. You don't let your camp move forward on something like this without knowing what happened.

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tombs14 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:19 pm
tribecalledquest wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:15 pm
tombs14 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:08 pm

Come again?
It wasn’t a setup. But I knew you would be all over something like this. Congrats.
But clearly waiting for an investigation wasnt a priority, and you supported jumping to conclusions.

PS. It was a setup from his own camp. It was a garage door pull string. For effs sake. You don't let your camp move forward on something like this without knowing what happened.
I didn’t support jumping to conclusions. I said if you think something like this is a setup as your first conclusion then that says something.
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It wasn’t Redbird’s first conclusion. He just threw the thought out there alongside the consensus racist scenario as possibilities:
Whoever hung the noose be them a racist or someone who did it to "help the protest cause", is an awful person that society doesn't really need around.
And he turned out be the wise one in this thread - leaving the door open for the investigation to unfold.
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I am all good. Turns out it was really neither, and I am glad. It wasn't some racist threatening Wallace, and it wasn't someone faking it to help the protest cause either.
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A shame that this kind of thing happens. Like other false media hyped accusations, it causes another wave of people to say "Yeah just like ____" and roll their eyes the next time something legitimate actually happens.

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With Twitter, et al, why did we not see pictures of the “noose?” I think that answer is obvious.

Fifteen FBI agents time wasted.

Now, are these really the questions I was called here to answer? Garage door pull chords? Please tell me you have something more, Bubba. These unknown racist nascar insiders are on trial for their lives. Please tell me that their accuser hasn't pinned his hopes to a pull chord.
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tombs14 wrote:
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Bubba Wallace is a fraud.

Tribe owes Redbird a huge mea culpa.

One of these days, progressives will seek truth, not just ride the woke train off a cliff.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/28 ... ce-october
Wallace is not a fraud. Given the situation in this country right now, I can see how he would perceive that it was a noose, especially given all the other Confederate flags that were seen near the track on Sunday. And in case you haven't heard, there was also one found in a garage at Sonoma Raceway, where NASCAR would normally be racing this time of year but the race itself was cancelled due to covid and a replacement race was ran at one of the tracks (Darlington maybe?) when NASCAR returned.

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With Twitter, et al, why did we not see pictures big the “noose?” I think that answer is obvious.
Oh praytell, what is this so-called "obvious" answer?

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Bluejaygrad03 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:15 pm
illini25 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:13 pm
With Twitter, et al, why did we not see pictures big the “noose?” I think that answer is obvious.
Oh praytell, what is this so-called "obvious" answer?
There wasn’t a noose.
Just like the Oakland park exercise equipment erroneously called a “noose.”

If Wallace weren’t on tv proclaiming all that doubted the story as “simple minded” I’d be more sympathetic. Every **** garage at that track has a pull chord loop.

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tombs14 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:01 pm
Bubba Wallace is a fraud.

Tribe owes Redbird a huge mea culpa.

One of these days, progressives will seek truth, not just ride the woke train off a cliff.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/28 ... ce-october
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