Bradley's depth 19/20 season

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Problem is we are depending on freshman for depth. Hopefully the staff can coach those 3 up quickly. We'll need all 3 at some point during the season guaranteed. Boya will play minutes but only in 2-3 minute stretches max. The guy needs to focus on just a few areas to see the floor more and that is protect the rim, rebound, set picks without moving and run the floor.
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It is obvious that if 2 of our starters have an off night, the bench is unable to fill the production shortage gap. For example, DB & KB were off in our game against Memphis, so we lost badly despite dominating the boards by a large margin. We could have lost by a much lesser margin (or even won by couple of points) against #15 ranked Memphis, if our bench was strong. In short, overall, our bench is WEAK, that means that we lack quality in our depth, which what our opponents could capitalize on. Therefore, for us win against the top 50% of MVC competition, our starters MUST show up to play.

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It is obvious that if 2 of our starters have an off night, the bench is unable to fill the production shortage gap. For example, DB & KB were off in our game against Memphis, so we lost badly despite dominating the boards by a large margin. We could have lost by a much lesser margin (or even won by couple of points) against #15 ranked Memphis, if our bench was strong. In short, overall, our bench is WEAK, that means that we lack quality in our depth, which what our opponents could capitalize on. Therefore, for us win against the top 50% of MVC competition, our starters MUST show up to play.
Just about every team in the Valley has this problem, your star players need to perform like star players in order for you to win games. I wish we would have been lucky enough that Nolan could be playing this season.

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It is obvious that if 2 of our starters have an off night, the bench is unable to fill the production shortage gap. For example, DB & KB were off in our game against Memphis, so we lost badly despite dominating the boards by a large margin. We could have lost by a much lesser margin (or even won by couple of points) against #15 ranked Memphis, if our bench was strong. In short, overall, our bench is WEAK, that means that we lack quality in our depth, which what our opponents could capitalize on. Therefore, for us win against the top 50% of MVC competition, our starters MUST show up to play.
Just about every team in the Valley has this problem, your star players need to perform like star players in order for you to win games. I wish we would have been lucky enough that Nolan could be playing this season.
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real fan wrote:
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:59 am
It is obvious that if 2 of our starters have an off night, the bench is unable to fill the production shortage gap. For example, DB & KB were off in our game against Memphis, so we lost badly despite dominating the boards by a large margin. We could have lost by a much lesser margin (or even won by couple of points) against #15 ranked Memphis, if our bench was strong. In short, overall, our bench is WEAK, that means that we lack quality in our depth, which what our opponents could capitalize on. Therefore, for us win against the top 50% of MVC competition, our starters MUST show up to play.
Just about every team in the Valley has this problem, your star players need to perform like star players in order for you to win games. I wish we would have been lucky enough that Nolan could be playing this season.
Agreed. If two of the three of Nate, DB or Eli have bad games Bradley isn't going to win very many. There isn't anything guys like Ville, Boya or Gabriel can do to offset that. What they can do is provide assistance and help when guys like Kingsby, Henry or Bar struggle.
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This is what I was trying to get at with my comment (somewhere on this board) about EC being the 2-3 best player on most other teams, whereas he is our stud. He is a stud caliber player, but I feel like if he didn't have to be , if we had 1-2 guys that were game in game out star caliber players he could just be free to do his thing. I probably am not going to be able make my point with the right words, but I agree with the sentiments in the last few posts.
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This is what I was trying to get at with my comment (somewhere on this board) about EC being the 2-3 best player on most other teams, whereas he is our stud. He is a stud caliber player, but I feel like if he didn't have to be , if we had 1-2 guys that were game in game out star caliber players he could just be free to do his thing. I probably am not going to be able make my point with the right words, but I agree with the sentiments in the last few posts.
EC is the perfect compliment to a stud guard. The guy I have in mind is someone like a Tyreke Key.
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Brian Wardle needs to give SOME bench players like Ville, Antonio, Houpt and of course Gabriel more playing time during easier games so that the bench could become stronger and be a solid back-up in the MVC tourny and beyond. This strategy was actually something Dick Versace credited after winning the NIT tournament in 1982. After winning the tournament, Versace said that same was the key factor. That is how deeper teams are built, if a mid-major program can only attract 2-star recruits, and, since our bench is mostly composed of freshmen, the rewards will last longer.

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Brian Wardle needs to give SOME bench players like Ville, Antonio, Houpt and of course Gabriel more playing time during easier games so that the bench could become stronger and be a solid back-up in the MVC tourny and beyond. This strategy was actually something Dick Versace credited after winning the NIT tournament in 1982. After winning the tournament, Versace said that same was the key factor. That is how deeper teams are built, if a mid-major program can only attract 2-star recruits, and, since our bench is mostly composed of freshmen, the rewards will last longer.
Wardle has done
exactly that.... he’s given bench players minutes.
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HoustonBrave wrote:
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Brian Wardle needs to give SOME bench players like Ville, Antonio, Houpt and of course Gabriel more playing time during easier games so that the bench could become stronger and be a solid back-up in the MVC tourny and beyond. This strategy was actually something Dick Versace credited after winning the NIT tournament in 1982. After winning the tournament, Versace said that same was the key factor. That is how deeper teams are built, if a mid-major program can only attract 2-star recruits, and, since our bench is mostly composed of freshmen, the rewards will last longer.
I agree with this, but keep in mind the A&T game wasn't really safe to get these guys meaningful minutes until there were about 10- 12 minutes left in the game. That said, Ville ended up getting 22 minutes and Gabriel 11. Both more than Henry. With Kingsby and Brown on the roster I'm sure Wardle didn't see the urgency to get Thomas more minutes, especially since he had a few turnovers in his limited minutes.
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You have three guys (DB, Eli and Nate) who are going to play 32+ minutes every night. Kingsby, Henry and Koch will get in the 20s. There aren’t a ton of minutes to go around after that.
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Last year, Henry had some pretty bad non-con games and was a DNP for the start of conference season, but by the end was a key rotation player. A nice role will certainly be there for anyone that shows they are ready for it.
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With Gabriel released, Kingby receiving a warning via a one-game suspension (which could be an indicator of a possible permanent future suspension), 2 sit-out transfers, injuries to Mast and Childs, team depth is a HUGE issue. That is especially true if DB has an off night like the one he had at Miami (Ohio) game. Not a pretty position (in terms of depth) at the start of the MVC season where every team will play us hard, being the reigning MVC champs. Hope we will be able weather the storm until Childs gets back, as I hope other players step up in the meantime. Not a pretty position to be in, to say the least!

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BIG game today as we start the MVC season. Not sure how how OUR lack of depth will affect us today. But, hopefully it will be a "W" for us if DB will have a good game.

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I cannot see us winning this game. But if we do, we’ll win the regular title. Book it.

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BIG game today as we start the MVC season. Not sure how how OUR lack of depth will affect us today. But, hopefully it will be a "W" for us if DB will have a good game.

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I'm not sure DB has had a good true road game this season. Possibly St. Joseph's, but he had five TO's and we lost to a bad team when we DID have EC in the lineup.
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I cannot see us winning this game. But if we do, we’ll win the regular title. Book it.
I won't BOOK a regular season title, but we'd be in the driver's seat, and I would feel pretty good about have Wardle at the reins.
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I think two games in it’s pretty early to make many proclamations. I’m not sold on UNI.
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I think two games in it’s pretty early to make many proclamations. I’m not sold on UNI.
Yeah..... waaayyyy to early to make that call. no doubt a huge W if it happens but lots of season left......
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